There is an endless source of meanness and hate on the Democratic side, why are we shocked when the well experienced righty side behaves this way too?

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Didn't say we asked for it, but the Democratic campaign is the meanest I have seen. It's devoid of real debate and is based on personal insults, hate and innuendo. I hope I can safely make the assertion that without the visceral hate of the Clintons, Obama would not have been where he is today. I claim that many in the A-List go for Obama because, at leat unconsciously, they hate the Clintons. Adriana Huffington hated Bill even 10 years ago. We used to be better than that. Why are we shocked to see the right wing resort to its old hate (which always was there)?

I mean to put up the little widget that says so ;-)

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

I think this primary is being made worse by Republican provocateurs pretending to support Obama or Clinton. But that is just me.

It is also being made worse by lefty bloggers who should know better, but don't understand the difference between a primary and a general. The people they attack today are the people they will need in the general.

sigh

What bugs me is that Aravosis is blaming Digby's regular readership for the negative attention that his post got.

But Aravosis wasn't even mentioned until the third update -- what is far more likely to have happened is that one of the "whackjob" pro-Hillary/anti-Obama sites linked to the Digby piece about Matthews, traffic got sent to her, and these whackjobs went after John A.

Digby's commenters are generally not that kind of people -- and she shut down her comments when things started getting ugly a little while ago, and recently re-opened them. I have the sad feeling that she's going to have to shut down the comments section again...

I do notice that our comments are a lot cleaner now that registration is required....

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

the Democratic campaign is the meanest I have seen.

Oh, I dunno.

Maybe that crystalized my respect for HHH.

No Hell below us
Above us, only sky

that's all i'll say. except that i've learned never to hold a grudge against another woman blogger, unless i have very direct and very specific proof to do so. they are out to fuck with us, this one i know from personal experience.

and lambert: don't put it up. part of the definition of "A-List," is that you never have to say so publically. everyone just knows, and more importantly, the right people know. you've crossed that threshold some time ago, no need for vulgar self-promotion or advertising. that's for the new money plebs and professional bugkillers who think they're royalty because they ratfuck better than the rest of their party's guttersnipes.

Is kind of cheesy and not a real proof of A-list status.

i could've done the "a list barbie" comment, but i thought i'd be pedantic instead.

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Didn't experience Humphrey-Muskie, or Hart-Mondale, or Carter-Kennedy.

They're all mean. I don't even know if the pearl-clutching about mean-ness is knew. It's a pretty shop-worn trope, so it probably isn't....

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Recovered DU member
check out some of these threads on a so-called "progressive Dem Site"
Honestly..when you can't tell the difference between DU and freerepublic, the state of politics has reached a sorry state.
Is this what Obama meant when he said he would bring Republicans into the process?

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Keep in mind..that on the site in question..Posters who speak against Obama are deleted in short order.
This kind of crap is typical of the hostility coming from some Obama supporters..it is sad..
I know they want to win..but winning this way is just too pathetic for words.
Joebasic

Is this what Obama meant when he said he would bring Republicans into the process?

Yes. Hillary hatred has been a dominant political phenomenon for at least a decade. These guys are cold professionals. They can't possibly be unaware, so they know what they are doing.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Or is it that, as I have long argued, that the Republican Party has gone so far off the deep end that moderate conservatives are seeking refuge in the Democratic Party, and the Democratic leadership, long wishing to suppress its progressive wing, is more than happy to welcome them?

...for the rest of us

The GOP has fractionalized along nontraditional lines: religion, income, immigration -- more during the last 18 months than they had done previously in my lifetime (yes I remember all those "The GOP is Dead" magazine covers after the Carter and Clinton election victories. I think they were rabble-rousing on the part of all those Main$tream Media editors).

Many "moderate conservatives" -- people who think e.g. Joe Lieberman's ideas are okay -- who would've voted GOP in 2004 won't in 2008 because they see that if the GOP wins again, not only won't they have to mow their own lawns, wash their own cars, and clean their own company lavs, they'll still have to pay higher taxes while doing so.

We can admit that we're killers ... but we're not going to kill today. That's all it takes! Knowing that we're not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0