Some people don't know when they are well off

It seems that AHIP's widdle feelings have been hurt. They feel that they have been unfairly attacked. For us it is a good sign. It means that they have been feeling the heat.

One reason I have advocated picketing insurance parasites and picketing their events is that people under attack often make mistakes. It is very difficult to maintain focus and when people are calling you blood sucking parasites and murder by spread sheet. Politicians are trained to handle this sort of thing, but trade associations and CEO's are more accustomed to working behind the scenes.

Keep up the pressure. It is only a question of time before they do something really stupid.

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They're getting "irritated", are they?

Just think how I feel when they deny my claims, just to see if I'll appeal.

If "the polling says [for-profit health insurers] are an easy target" that couldn't possibly be because their own actions make people see them as vultures and vampires, could it?

If the shoe fits, say it loud and often. (To totally trash a cliche.)

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We can't afford not to have single-payer!

Also, people who say they are satisfied with their health plans,

what does it say that "polling shows" that casting health insurance companies as the villains works?

Says to me it's not the insurers the people like - it's their doctors and other health care providers.

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We can't afford not to have single-payer!

James Roosevelt should be ashamed of himself--I can't imagine

how his grandmother and grandfather would react to what he's doing and how he's trying undermine one of his father's goals.

More blunt in an interview today was a member of AHIP's board of directors, James Roosevelt Jr., the grandson of Franklin D. Roosevelt who runs the Tufts Health Plan in Massachusetts and is a longtime Democratic National Committee official. He said he had no problem with reform proponents shifting the framing of the debate to "health insurance reform." But, he added, the increasingly harsh anti-industry bent to the rhetoric was "offensive."

"I like the focus on health insurance as opposed to trying to accomplish everything at once in trying to reorder health care -- this is the great trap that Democrats fall into, that they try to change the system as a whole, and then people get scared and it falls to pieces," he said. "But the part about calling insurers villains and morally bankrupt I find offensive and ineffective. The polling says we're an easy target, and it's easy to see the political motivation, that to get this to the goal line you need to create a villain. But I do worry that that does ramp up the opposition as much as it ramps up support."

Were his colleagues on AHIP discussing jettisoning their collaborative stance for full-bore opposition? "What I see is people being very irritated but so far staying committed to universal coverage and the things you have to do to get there," he said.

To be fair

Tufts Health is one of the less-bad guys and is (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) still not-for-profit.

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We can't afford not to have single-payer!

Which is why a Roosevelt was chosen as a front man -- the name

is worth a lot. How bad could a group be with a Roosevelt out there as a spokesperson?

Can you imagine Eleanor's reaction? FDR's?

Ok, in this I am not being totally "fair," but neither is he.

OT, but what is to be made of this?:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/nanc...

Medicare for All is Civil Rights

We can see the promised sgl payer vote IS NOT MENTIONED in

this article co-written by the same reporter from The Hill which broke the Pelosi promise to hold a vote on Weiner's plan in lieue of his offering HR 676 as a substitute for the HR 3200 mess in committee.

Single payer is mentioned, but only as something which is making liberals angry at Dems since it is "off the table.".

The Memory Hole opens swiftly for things which the powerful do not want discussed -- or known by the little people.

Wow.

What it makes me think is that we better be bombarding Speaker Pelosi's office with whatever we can muster to get her to remember there a true cost saving and health care giving alternative to all these messes coming out of the committees.

And this, on the Kucinich amendment

The revision will also have to deal with an Education and Labor amendment letting states create “single-payer” plans the Democratic leadership is likely to frown upon.

Why would they frown on it? Leader Nance is on recprd saying single-payer is the best choice.

Put up or shut up time from the so-called liberals in Congress. Whip 'em, whip 'em good.

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We can't afford not to have single-payer!