Tue, 09/25/2007 - 10:31pm — lambert
For this here. But even my rudimentary Spanish skills can
cope with this headline:
Bush avisó a Aznar de que estaría en Bagdad en marzo con o sin resolución de la ONU
That's how the Spanish newspaper El Pais summarized the conversation between Bush and then Spanish Prime Minister Aznar just before the outbreak of the Iraq War.
IIRC, the Spanish arrested Pinochet for war crimes, so maybe there's hope for Justice yet.
NOTE Via TPM, thank you, thank you, thank you. Funny, there's no mention of this in our famously free press. It's not going to take us another fifteen months to break this story over here, right? Like it did with the Downing Street Memo?
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Surprisingly good job google translate here
and the notes (?) from the meeting in Crawford here
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AZNER: In fact, the greater success would be to win the game without shooting a single shot and invading Bagdad.
BUSH: For me it would be the perfect solution. I do not want the war. I know what they are the wars. I know the destruction and the death that [it will bring(?)]. I am the one that has to console the mothers and the widows of dead. By all means, for us that would be the best solution. In addition, it would save $50 billion dollars.
Those seem contradictory
Where do the two conversations come from?
(And 50 lashes with a wet noodle for me, not thinking of Goodle translate.)
We. Are. Going. To. Die. We must restore hope in the world. We must bring forth a new way of living that can sustain the world. Or else it is not just us who will die but everyone. What have we got to lose? Go forth and Fight!—Xan
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
the two links
One is the meeting transcription and the other is the El Pais article. I found that passage very ironic, trying to tell Spain that he really didn't want war. They also talk with Blair about the date and Bush not wanting to wait until the middle of march.