Stupid, stupid, stupid

Pravda:

The stimulus package is expected to include at least $300 billion in tax cuts and nearly $550 billion in domestic spending

Too small to work, since it concedes way too much to Republicans, who want a tax cut no matter what. Government spending has a bigger multiplier than tax cuts, so it's better for the economy (that is, our economy) than tax cuts. Shit, if tax cuts worked, do you think the anti-government Republicans would want them?

When is some Village scribe going to call the Republican tax cut nostrum a "failed policy of the past," anyhow?

And why are the Dems giving any credence to the Republicans at all?

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suppose this measure has multiple objectives

One is direct economic stimulus, with the economic multiplyers that Moody's has calculated to be most positive. That will account for $550 billion at least. The remainder as tax cuts, if it stays at $300 billion, isn't a negative, just a neutral; each dollar delivers a dollar to GDP. But the thinking, and we'll know more as it moves along, is to reduce the business part of that tax break and add money to the higher-multiplyer targets. This deal isn't done yet, and the balance may end up more like 600/250.

Minus the business provisions, the tax breaks all bear on the middle class including a much-needed adjustment in the AMT which is not actually a "tax-cut" although it is being touted as such. This is a Progressive change, since we have seen the tax burden shift substantially away from the rich and onto the middle class under Bush. Suppose that this is a first installemnt towards a generally more Progressive taxation structure, to be followed by not renewing the temporary Bush tax cuts that favor the rich. If this were to be done, our tax structure would resemble that formulated under Clinton in '93, which laid the basis for greatly reducing the Federal deficit.

The total required stimulus does look to be much higher than what is in this measure but the opposition in Congress - Republicans + BlueDogs - is still substantial, enough to block any measure, and Obama simply cannot obtain the whole amount all at one time. What he can do, it appears, is get this $550-600 billion now if he includes a tax-cut sweetener. It is very important, I think, that he get this win now and start the recovery process without a protracted struggle. The rate at which this money can be spent is limited and means we don't have to appropriate it all NOW NOW NOW anyway.

The next step will be to come back later in the year for another $500-600 billion. That will draw objections from Republicans and BlueDogs as being fiscally irresponsible, need to balance the budget, blah blah blah. The best way to do that is foreswear renewal of the Bush tax cuts. That isn't a tax increase, just the end of temporary tax breaks. Thus, by a year from now well more than a trillion will have been spent on stimulus while normalizing the tax code into a more Progressive structure.

I don't know that this is the thinking, but it is consistent with what has been thusfar proposed.

I agree that the tax cuts are less insane

However the downside risk of the measure failing is horrific -- not only making the crisis worse, but discredting the very notion of intervention at all -- and the upside risks are not. Of course, failure benefits Republican ideologues (and somebody should make a chart of which constituency groups are cash-heavy, and hence benefit from deflation). As Krugman points out (too lazy to find the links), it's better to err on the side of excess. This plan is erring on the side of caution. That's down to that bipartisanship crap, enabling behavior by Democrats, and (I would say) Obama's "thoughtful" temperament. Yeah, we can stretch the plan out, as you say, but again, the bang for the buck is less.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

But why....

But why can't Obama use the "now Now NOW" line for the spending part of the stimulus, and talk about tax cuts as part of a larger package later (i.e. "we have to get the money in the spending pipeline NOW, we can figure out the tax cut later...")

Let me answer my own question -- because Obama doesn't have Clue One about the economy, and is relying upon (consistently wrong) village wisdom.

You may be right, Paul

He isn't likely to be someone who makes waves, but is rather a go-along-to-get-along kind of person. He really doesn't like confrontation, so accommodation is what he'll try and achieve. Americans should be more thoughtful about who gets elected.

The people/forces who need to be accommodated legislatively are BlueDogs in the House (not so much this session, they didn't get quite as many pickups as they expected) and most importantly the coalition of Republicans and conservative Democrats in the Senate, as surrogates of the nutso faction of our Big Money Elite. That bunch was happy under BushCo and will have to be bribed - literally - to go along with anything that isn't outright rape and pillage. They can be convinced to accept an approach that is investment oriented, but they will still demand their vig and if they don’t get it they will raise all kinds of hell.

Everyone who isn't a raving ideological idiot knows the stimulus bill is too small to get the job done - including, I am pretty sure, Obama. The guy isn't a Progressive maiden's dream, but he isn't a dummy either. What little sense I can make out of how the process is being set up, it looks like they are playing a strategic long game; setting the pieces in place for later moves. We’re used to BushCo, who played politics as though it is checkers and then pulled out guns and started shooting to get their way. Obama is playing chess, or so it appears to me, and these moves we’re seeing now are just the opening gambit; the overall strategy is still – for me – opaque.

But what do I know? I'm on a Buh-Bye Bushie high these days, can’t bring me down.

Paul, you need a container garden. Putter around with some green growing things, do some nurturing, get a reward for the effort. Look how much happier lambert is since he started gardening!