Need more proof that the ISG is nothing more than Kabuki? Check out this snippet from USSnooze's Gloria Borger:

t was a group journey that surprised even the members themselves. Bipartisan panels often come up with mush; this was a report girded in steel. It was the result, members say, of some eye-opening moments--including an interview with the president and his national security team. At one point, Vernon Jordan, a skilled Washington insider, put it pretty bluntly to the president, according to a panel member's paraphrase:

Jordan: What do you mean by victory? When my mama told me to clean the garage, I cleaned the garage because I knew what she meant. But I don't understand what you mean.

Bush: You have to speak to the American people with a simple message here. They understand what victory is, and if you come off of it, they'll think you're giving up.

Some members say they were stunned by the response. And when they left, they were puzzled by one more thing: During their entire session, Vice President Dick Cheney--a key architect of the war in Iraq--never said a word. Not one. Read more…

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