The boys on the blogs cover the debate

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The still-better-than-so-much-else, sigh, TPM:

But one of my big questions about this debate was Hillary Clinton's lack of aggressiveness toward Barack Obama. ... That was the big silence in this debate.

See? The Clinton Rules apply. Because you just know that if Hillary had been more aggressive--more aggressive than “Change you can xerox," that is--Marshall would have been lamented, more in sorrow than in anger, how others would reinforce her image as a bitch.

If you want to know what really went on, don't read the Boys On The Blogs. Read BTD (who, I remind you, is an Obama supporter, as opposed to having been assimilated by the OFB).

Oh, and remember my litmus test?

Will the standing ovation Hillary got be mentioned? The video shows it. Marshall doesn't mention it.

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Change at last, change at last, change at last

What really bothers me is the decimation of the progressive movement. First, it is clearly a change and second it may take a generation before we revive the progressive movement. At least we have the winner of the American Idol.

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The Obama Progressive

Is really a Libertarian who is against the war, (cause it's not cool) and wants the government to do something about the environment. This is who is passing as a progressive these days.

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Maybe we can retake the word liberal then?

I admit, a few years ago, to being very confused to find that 'liberal' was now a bad word and progressive was taking its place. Nothing against progressive but... liberal actually defines me pretty well. And populist, and yes, progressive to some degree.

Libertarian? No, not really. I can see some of their points, but I think their (non) solution sucks. I'm currently reading a book that's really got me thinking about this, I will probably post one of my first posts on it soon (after the cheese stuff I promised Lambert).

Anyway, I do think this could really burn the progressive movement. I also think we need to rise up out of the ashes and come back immediately, even if we have to relabel as 'liberal' or something else, since obviously some of the 'progressives' are actually nothing of the sort. Or, the progressive movement was never about being liberal. One or the other.

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Additional excerpts can be found here. "Utterly dedicated to preserving their self-image of perfection, they are unceasingly engaged in the effort to maintain the appearance of moral purity. They are acutely sensitive to social norms and what others might think of them. They seem to live lives that are above reproach. The words "image", "appearance" and "outwardly" are crucial to understanding the morality of 'the evil'. While they lack any motivation to be good, they intensely desire to appear good. Their goodness is all on a level of pretense. It is in effect a lie. Actually the lie is designed not so much to deceive others as to deceive themselves. We lie only when we are attempting to cover up something we know to be illicit. At one and the same time 'the evil' are aware of their evil and desperately trying to avoid the awareness." Peck's material, I feel, has great potential for analyzing and deconstructing the nature and behavior of the wing of the Republican party that has captured our government. With the caveats, that Peck raises, that evil is very dangerous to analyze--since we are, after all, all vulnerable to it.

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