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The Times of Harvey Milk

Thu, 01/01/2009 - 12:31pm — Davidson

The Oscar-winning documentary is about an hour and a half. If you want to watch it later, just click on this link and bookmark it.

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it's great

By amberglow on Thu, 01/01/2009 - 4:26pm

(and how not far we've come at all since then, really) : <

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We'll get there

By Davidson on Thu, 01/01/2009 - 4:39pm

And I agree: the documentary is great. I watched it last night. I love these type of documentaries because they make you more convinced you have to fight, fight, fight, to never give in.

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i wish i was still optimistic--

By amberglow on Thu, 01/01/2009 - 4:44pm

as we've moved forward socially, we've gone back drastically legalwise.

and over and over, it's proven that we have no real allies anywhere who are willing to stand with us -- or vote with us!!!! -- for our equality.

and we're still always told to shut up and wait -- something else is more important.

people pay lipservice to being for equality but don't vote that way, and now almost every state has officially enshrined our "less-than" status into their constitutions.

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Popular vote == dead end, unless....

By TonyRz on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 2:53am

We're a permanent minority. If people "come over" to 'our side' on election day, it's because they personally know someone who is GLBT. (ObThreadTie: That's what Sean Penn said in "Milk", and I'm sticking by it.)

Staying fully out of the closet is the single most revolutionary and practical thing you can do. Even (especially) when it's not chic and a little 'tired'.

Get real: You don't have enough cash to outspend the Mormons; that 'working from the inside' gay cabal isn't as reliable as you'd like to believe (after this past Fall, they're probably not as rich as you'd like to believe, either).

Oh, and, uh, carry a box cutter in your clutch? (I do.)

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we are doing that, Tony--

By amberglow on Fri, 01/02/2009 - 8:23am

and we're going backwards still.

being out is in no way enough -- and it's also actually making many potential "allies" think we're ok as-is. They don't see the need for ENDA or Housing or other protections at all, because we're personally out, and seemingly ok.

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Sounds like a setup for more losing "coalition building"

By TonyRz on Sat, 01/03/2009 - 3:23am

Think of your "strategy", going forward, more in terms of the public square, and building a different social context for next election day, even for people who have never met you, and less in terms of banging your head against a wall to save the gay world, or desperately begging for a kiss or a public handshake from "The One". Work towards a world where public and brazen bashing will get met with more "WTF?"s than they are today.

We've been getting told for years about the importance of "coalitions" and such, but they have pretty spectacularly failed us in 2008, and the reasons for that failure, while many, IMHO center this year around fear and loathing that doesn't get cured from the top down, even with the bravest of leadership, which we didn't have anyway this year. Things get a little rough, and you're going to get thrown overboard.

Speaking for myself, I'm out (and I mean "out of this pointless game", not out of the closet, although I am). Let the drooling fratboys have their golf-playing douchebag CiC. For us, things just keep getting worse. Hatred has now been rubberstamped by both major parties. Going forward this year, I'm all about charity and volunteerism on behalf of my people, not the Republican-lite DC lobbying groups. Let them go ask Rick Warren for some of that videogame money.

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