
I’ve known plenty of people who lost their jobs and didn’t “lose their dignity,” thank you very much.
Especially the ones that “cling to” their guns.
But heck, I’ll be generous and not say that Axelrod told his client to do a 180 and stop pushing the Unity
schtick because he can’t make the numbers work without getting the working class votes he thought he could write off, and they want something concrete, not vacuous rhetoric. I mean, that would imply that Obama was pandering.
More boring bullet points about policy, please!
NOTE: Via TalkLeft.
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Wrong word choice
Perhaps if he had said that they felt frustrated or depressed it would have come off better, but to state that you lose your dignity implies personal blame. Regardless, the GOP will spin that quote like crazy and it'll be added to their narrative: "Obama is an out of touch liberal who holds the working class in contempt."
Except that Obama is famous for his eloquence
So why should he be cut any slack on his word choice? Harvard law is all about word choice. Word choice matters when community organizing and running for office, for that matter.
So, sometimes word choice is revealing. Le style, c´est l´homme!
I think this is one of those times.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
Also "fewer wages"
Who says "fewer wages"?
Parsing...
One of our lawyers or a grammarian can correct me, but FWIW:
If you're looking at a paycheck, you would think of wages as a mass noun, like money, and use "less."
If you're counting your employees, you would think of wages as a count noun, and use "fewer." Cue "which side are you on."
So, there you are. He really is tone deaf.
And cue outrage from OFB
at these trivialities.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi
sociology
first off, it wasn't just a "loss of dignity" --- Obama also said "you lose your sense of who you are, and your place in your community".
Obama leaned everything he knows about working class people in a college sociology class.
Saul Alinsky
I never heard that name before this campaign, but I saw a link to an article about how Obama used this man's methods while he was a "community organizer".
Now, like most things written about Obama's campaign, I don't like the source of the article.
But damn if seeing ain't believing. Obama's using the same methods to get votes. He's agitating and picking at sores to motivate people to vote for him. Google that name along with Obama's. That video you posted is pure Alinsky.
OxyCon
I'd link to Hillary's college thesis about Alinsky...
"There Is Only the Fight...." but I'm only finding copies on winger sites, where they tried to use it to show that she was a bomb-throwing radical.
I read it when it first got into the public domain, and it was pretty interesting.
He just gives me a headache.
I'm so frustrated by the primaries. Women have taken a hit by a factor of 10. I have no faith at all that this dude will do jack all to help middle america. He's a lot of stinky socks to me.
"The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it's by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules," --Bill Clinton
http://www.correntewire.com/ye_olde_writ... fiction link
Am I the only one with ADHD??
i don't know how anyone stands listening to Barry meander, mope, and lolligag through this kind of stumper. I know this is 5 minutes I will never get back.
He does all this sore picking and never even gets to what exactly he's going to do about it. granted the clip cut off just when he was going to tell us the differences with Senator Clinton.
PS: I could swear he says: "lose your SENSE of dignity"? rather than your actual full blown dignity.. like they only have dignity that's rubbed on temporarily when they're employed??
dupager
Needs to be a t-shirt
" Obama leaned everything he knows about working class people in a college sociology class."
That is all
If it votes like a Republican and passes bills like a Republican and signs Executive Orders like a Republican then is must be...................a Democrat
Vastleft, check Google scholar
as to whether HRC's thesis has been placed online by her college library.
Conrad agrees with Obama
“I don’t like work, no one does, but I like what is in the work, the chance to find yourself.”
- Marlow, Heart of Darkness, page 99
VL, there is a copy available
if you want it. Clinton has claimed copyright so there's some small risk she'll try to suppress it but hey, maybe the letter from her lawyers would be worth something to Lambert some day.
If you want it I can email to Lambert, either as the searchable PDF or convert it to MSW.doc or post it up here. It is 93 pages.
Please advise.
There are copies online. With either one's DCOW nose held...
... or a little spelunking, it is accessible w/o us posting a copy.
I wish I could remember more of it, I just recall that -- in my Hillary skeptic days -- I was impressed by the rigorous thinking.
I'm still a Hillary skeptic
And have no real illusions, she'll hew pretty close to the middle, for a first term at least. Any more, the first term is just a campaign for the second term.
Thing is, I'm also an Obama SKEPTIC so she gets my support for what it's worth.
The paper is closely reasoned, and she hits Alinsky's weak points as well as where he gets it right. A more than pretty good job; she's at least as smart as Bill.