Wed, 05/06/2009 - 8:46am — lambert
Froomkin deals with the matter.
It's always the same, isn't it? No accountability for Versailes, ever. It's exactly the same with health care
If we could just "nudge" those fucking peasants into eating right, maybe spend a few hundred bucks at the gym, we could keep collecting those premiums and never pay out on them. Why won't they do the right thing?
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I'm so glad you pointed that out
Read the headline on Slate and didn't even bother to read the article. My blood pressure would have needed attending to.
How these witless numbskulls can blame those with the least amount of power to effect change is freaking beyond me. How the hell do they sleep at night?
They sleep easily
Very easily. The mattresses in Versailles
are very soft.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Perhaps they should be smothered with them, then
saves money on a guillotine.
Sorry to be aggressive. This subject gets me angry.
This phrase reminded me of when, in my view,
Versailles
got started.
Hammering away daily started with Ted Koppel's Nightline, which was created to destroy Jimmy Carter by counting the days until the hostages returned home from Iran. Nightly criticism and mockery of the eventually successful release operation gave us Ronald Reagan and the start of the mess we have now.
Maybe Versailles
could turn their 24x7 airtime filler to something which might actually be scandalous or illegal behavior? Like say torture or the creation of a US oligarchy? Nah...
Blaming the peasants is smart and right
It will get them sufficiently angry so as they have no choice but to act. This is just another example of Obama being leaps and bounds ahead of the GOP and everyone else. This should be applauded, not mocked.
OK, does my sarcasm sound like previous serious arguments we've heard?
Only tyrants rig elections.
Yes
As a matter of fact, until I read that final sentence, I was wondering what was wrong with you.
He who will not reason is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who dares not is a slave.
- Sir William Drummond
Ok
I haven't read it all, but just so we get it straight, Froomkin is largely arguing against the idea the idea of so-called American complicity, doesn't he? Just want to make sure we get the criticism, correct. At least from what I've read thus far he seems to be placing a lot of the burden on the press corp.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
Froomkin
Tugs at the "but the peasants knew*, so they approved**, so they are guilty too***" argument as well as a writer for WaPo is likely allowed.
*Or at least they should have known, since we gave them every opportunity to know, and isn't it just so pathetic and "like them" that they pretend they didn't know?
** And isn't it also just so pathetic that they pretend they didn't approve? Now that it isn't any longer "fashionable"? My god we hate them.
*** Actually, the peasants are more guilty. They are so base, always making us do their wet work. Did I mention we hate them? For their dishonesty, weakness and lack of information? The Establishment isn't sick in its soul: it just reflects the collective peasant soul.
FULL DISCLOSURE!: My advocacy for a better world may benefit me personally!
Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....
Did Froomkin say that?
In fact, did he even imply any of that (particularly the last one)? I still never got through the rest of it, but he almost entirely places the blame on the media, for this, from what I've read?
Any quotes where he places most of the blame on the peasants or implies that they are more guilty in this than most all parties? I'm really not seeing it. In fact, this is what I've read, thus far:
Does the article take a huge turn, after this, or something?
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...
I meant the opposite on Froomkin
I guess I used an unclear word with "tugs" (which I would have changed if the edit function allowed). I meant it in the sense of "tugging at a loose thread/seeking to unravel". He was dismissing the "blame the peasants" argument. My asterisks were subliminal Versailles
.
But I don't really see what he wrote as some kind of blistering takedown. It wasn't something that would get him banned from the cocktail weinie circuit for example(should he want future invites). A thundering condemnation of the morally bankrupt "the peasants made them do it" argument. It was more of a plaintive request for reality and balance.
But every little bit helps, so don't get me wrong.
FULL DISCLOSURE!: My advocacy for a better world may benefit me personally!
Sorry, I don't fall in love with politicians. I'm not that desperate.....
Oh, don't get me wrong.
I wasn't arguing that is was a great takedown. In fact, I still think he misplaces a lot of the blame for the torture. It's all rather tame and Village
-safe. I was just getting the impression many thought that it was Froomkin putting torture on the American people, and he's not really doing that, at all.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...