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Since Sarah brought up fears of an Obama assassination, I felt obligated to post from this article entitled "Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded":

By Andrew M. Seder aseder@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

“I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

I don't mean to downplay real threats to the lives of the Obamas. There are undoubtedly real threats that should be taken seriously. But a pattern I am noticing more and more is the liberal charge that crazy, "erratic" McCain supporters (or Republicans) are plotting something heinous. Further, there is a quick slight of hand to implicate any and all McCain supporters/GOPers (see Sarah's comment above) with threats that could be made from genuinely unstable McCain supporters/GOPers that pose the real threats.

Are we going to trivialize death threats the same way we trivialized racism? If Obama does win and we disagree with his policies, are we going to be called racists or, worse, be implicated in plots against him? Death threats are real and, in my view, very serious. Throwing out unfounded allegations to tarnish the opposition is not only a disgusting tactics, but it takes away focus from the real threats that may be out there.

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Submitted by jawbone on

in interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, but many are coming around to vote for Obama.

Mr. Murtha, a 17-term Democrat from Johnstown, told the Post-Gazette's editorial writers he sees momentum building in Mr. Obama's campaign across the state for the general election after he lost his party's April primary to Hillary Clinton. He thinks Republican John McCain's efforts have been stymied by the country's economic crisis.

"I think Obama is going to win, but I don't think it's going to be a runaway," he said. "I think he wins Pennsylvania."

Mr. Murtha said it has taken time for the state's voters embrace a black presidential candidate.

"There's no question Western Pennsylvania is a racist area," said Mr. Murtha, whose district stretches from Johnstown to Washington County. "The older population is more hesitant."

Mr. Murtha said groups he deals with regularly, such as military veterans and senior citizens, have come around to supporting Mr. Obama in the past three months. He credited Mr. Obama with being the most organized candidate he has ever seen.

Wonder how that's going to go over with his voters.

Thanx for the post about no one shouting "kill him," at least that was audible to the Secret Service.

Wow.

Obama and his surrogates really do throw the accusations of racism and assassination around quite freely. Since it worked so well against Hillary (when she mentioned RFK had been assassinated and was accused of indicating something about Obama with that comment), I'm not surprised to see it brought out against McCain and Palin.

Ought to be an interesting 4 years.... I see our language being self-censored rather rigorously.

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Submitted by bringiton on

It is among if not the worst hotbed of bigotry in the whole country, and I've spent time in all 50 states.

IMNSHO past time it gets called out, along with every form of bigotry everywhere; the willingness to openly confront racism and sexism and every other form of hate will be the most important advancement to come out of this horribly painful election process.

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Submitted by ElizabethF on

I am from South western Pa...you know Appalachia, the hills.....the God and gun clinging segment of society.

To add to the disgust I have with Obama, word is that there are a majority who state they are voting for Obama. Not because they like him or even believe him but because Hillary says he is the only one who can save them from another Bush administration. Good thing no one took Ohbermann or the blogs Kill the Bitch seriously since she will be the one saving his ass if he wins there.

I guess bigotry fades to second or third if you are fearful of losing your money.

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Submitted by illusionofjoy on

And in my five years here, I have never experienced this alleged "hotbed of bigotry" that you claim exists in the area. However, in visits to Texas and Tennessee lasting less than a week, I've slammed face-first into horrible prejudice and bigotry. I don't know which part of Western Pennsylvania you were visiting, but it is obviously a part I am unfamiliar with.

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and on up to Erie. Everything from the ubiquitous anti-black and anti-gay idiocies on through to Serbs and Croats still fighting the Battle of Kosovo through the lobbing of slurs. From the many months I've spent there over the years, I would put the incidence of frank bigotry against at least one stereotyped other at well past 90% of the population.

Perhaps they're all being polite in front of a newcomer such as yourself.

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Submitted by lillianjane on

They heard Hillary Clinton saying she was hoping for a June assassination a la RFK, so it is perfectly reasonable that they hear threats in crowds of McCain supporters.

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Submitted by bringiton on

Younger people, such as you, know of the JFK and MLK and RFK assassinations in the abstract, as things out of history, events that happened in another time and place of which you have only anecdotal knowledge and no visceral sense of context. Some of us writing here, including Sarah and myself, are old enough to have actually lived through them. We know, not just have heard about it but actually know, what those time sounded like and how it felt, the hatred and the fear and the violence and the sorrow.

The last time I shook Bobby Kennedy's hand was at a rally five days before he was killed. I went to bed exhausted the night of the primary content and satisfied and excited that we had won California, a very difficult task that required subverting and defying both the state and the national Democratic political machines, and confident that this was the last major hurdle that needed overcoming, that we were on our way to the White House and a better world.

I woke to the sound of a friend pounding on my door - I had unplugged the phone - and the news that Bobby had been shot and was expected to die. It was a surreal experience then and 40 years on it is surreal still. It is one thing to read about a death, quite another to have known the man and touched him and looked directly in his eyes and invested your own time and effort and hopes and dreams in his success only to have to look at images of him lying on the floor while his blood and brains spread across the concrete.

That those of us who actually experienced those times now hear echoes should not be surprising to anyone of any maturity. Like Sarah and a great many others now speaking out in condemnation, I am deeply apprehensive over the tone of both the people attending Republican rallies and the words of McCain and Palin. What they are doing is very dangerous, which is why it has been called out and denounced by many voices on the Right as well as on the Left. Anyone decent would add their voice to condemn these practices as well, rather than trivializing them as you have done here.

Perhaps as you mature you will have encounters that imprint as deeply on your consciousness, that attune you to the sounds and images of actual experience that can't be learned from a textbook, as these assassinations have on the minds of your elders. Until then, you would be wise to take your considerably outsized and naive ego and stuff it somewhere while you pay attention to those who know things you do not.

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As usual, they are noted with great interest. I look forward to the days when I can mature enough to argue thusly: I know what's true and you don't, now run along.

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Submitted by bringiton on

Didn't say anything about "run along" but misrepresentation in lieu of meaningful rejoinder is your stock in trade.

What I recommend is that you listen and ask questions of those who know more than you, rather than speaking out from ignorance as you so often do. But suit yourself; we are laying down a permanent record here for all to read.

And to keep that record straight, what I expressed in commentary on your post was not condescension; it is contempt.

Submitted by lambert on

Somehow, a post that started out being about a simple question of fact turned into a thread about feelings and memory and respect for our elders.

It's interesting to watch the tactics used, as long as you don't get sucked into investing time in the misdirection.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by bringiton on

you are not the only one familiar with the tactics of argumentation.

I recognize a malicious character assassination when I see one, and am not inclined here to let it go unchallenged. YOMV, of course.

Submitted by lambert on

... you're familiar with another kind of character assassination?

Hey, you can perform a public service and bring the thread back to the question of fact that gq raises, instead of sharing your feelings and thoughts and views on the respect due to you. Or not. Over to you.

NOTE And yes, I thought that assassinating gq's character based on his youth was rather tacky, now that you mention it. But I imagine that was part of "step 1" in electing Obama?

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by bringiton on

What I wrote was coldly calculated and explicitly directed right where I intended it to go. Nothing to do with Obama at all, the need to drag his name into every conversation is your idée fixe not mine - speaking of transparent diversionary tactics.

Everyone has a right to their own interpretation of public service. A sharp rebuke to a stripling sassing a grown lady is in my mind exactly that. Again, YOMV.

If he'd only been interested in a corrective on the specific he could have done it easily and directly in the original thread; putting it up here the way he did, calling into question the wisdom of someone's perceptions, someone who has far more experience, is in my view grandstanding at another's expense, derogatory in the extreme and spoiling for a fight; so he got one. I was careful to pull my punches; surely he'll survive.

L: you’re familiar with another kind of character assassination?
Of course. It could be inadvertent, or collateral; those I would condemn less harshly. In this case I judged it to be deliberate, specific and premeditated, with malice aforethought.

Submitted by jawbone on

his death truly changed the direction of our nation, the nature of our politics. All for the worse. I was only a regular supporter/voter and saw his candidacy as a real avenue of change for the better. I was thrilled he had won CA--"On to Convention" for the floor fight was our cry.

But, I don't recall hearing that crowds were shouting for his death or things like that. I know Jackie Kennedy was terrified he would be assassinated as her husband was (and, so sadly, she was right). But, Sirhan Sirhan was not a Nixon fanatic (that we know of) and has never really talked about his act or why he did it. It did not seem to be a domestic political issue.

But, that year, death was in the air.

It still seems to me to have been such a terrible, terrible waste of a great human's life and is so painful I still cry about it.

The echoes I hear are more of the rabid antipathy toward Bill Clinton. As a friend said many times, if they had not assassinated his character, they might well have taken him out some other way. And that character assassination was domestic politics at work, complete with high level Repubs working against him in so many ways.

Bob Somerset supported Obama early on bcz he felt the Repubs and MCM would have a harder time trying to pull the usual character assassination on him, the ugly games the Repubs and MCM played against Big Dems. I think he got it right. He just didn't realize the MCMers would flip so easily.

Might there be some wackos who want him offed? Perhaps. The regular Repubs will be happy to have him stuck with super glue to the Big Me$$ and horrible economic conditions to come. They're looking at 2010 and 2012 already.

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Submitted by bringiton on

and I continue to believe a great loss. RFK was a complex man, but the changes I saw in him over the space of a few years were dramatic and I believe genuine. As he gained compassion, true compassion, his intellectual concern for the downtrodden was replaced by a somber and serious empathy that lacked artifice. He was transformed by the harsh reality those he met, and that ability to grow is an admirable quality in anyone.

I remember those times vividly, and yes there was much talk about killing "niggers" and "nigger-lovers" and I know that for a fact because it was directed at me. Canvassing brings you in contact with a cross-section of people you would otherwise simply avoid.

I am pleased to hear from another supporter of Bobby's. He was a good man.

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Submitted by elixir on

immature? I see it as realistic and keeping things in check. We certainly don't need to go there if it doesn't exist.

And I remember much of the time during the assassinations of JFK, MLK and RFK. As Jawbone aptly phrased it, death was in the air. Greater things were stiffled for an unknown reason.

This is not the same. Not the same at all.

I love this job!

Submitted by jawbone on

check out this find at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette about Dewey-The Small Town Libary Cat.

Every rally should have a cat petting station (carefully monitored against weirdos, of course). The Congress should have resident cats--might make for a better atmosphere.

Now, I'm going to go pet my cats....

This has been a disturbing topic--both the readiness to believe that McCain supporters shout "kill him," and Obama's discussing it at the debate last night, along with the anger and misogyny shown to various female pols this campaign.

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Submitted by scoutt on

You would rather believe the "140 stories" that are based on the account of a single person at event which not a single person can corroborate. That tells me you WANT TO BELIEVE IT.
The person in the audience of the McCain rally said that Obama scares them and they thought he was muslim. Again, how does that translate to a death threat?
But there were images all over the internet of Sarah Palin at gunpoint and wishes that she be gang raped but you don't see the imbalance of your point of view?

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snoozed beside my keyboard is another.

Animal-assisted therapy works.

And Bringiton's much more polite than me.


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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do you mean by this?

the multiple repetitions of the account of the Secret Service investigation of ONE incident at which the SS claims they didn't hear or find credible evidence can be found by a google search.

Results 1 - 10 of about 51,300 English is one such search, but all the stories date to one incident and all were released on 10/15/08 or thereafter.

but there are multiple videos available of crowds chanting, and there is video available of the crowd booing McCain when he asked them to respect Obama. McCain's attempt to return the level of discourse to something resembling collegiality actually angered his followers.

I discounted the first few such reports I saw and heard, myself; but it's not 'dying down.' I used to think it was just the dittoheads who said things like this, but it's not, anymore. Since the "campaign suspension" stunt, and his subsequent drop in the polls despite adding "that wonderful woman from Alaska!" to the ticket, there's less ... reticence ... about these abhorrent comments and sentiments. I find it discommoding.


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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Submitted by admin_lambert on

... "crowds boo-ing Obama" to "Republicans want to kill Obama" if you like; heck, it seems plausible enough to me -- even if the Obama campaign thought "Hillary wants to kill Obama" is plausible, the two are independent propositions.

However, on the actual question of fact with which the post began, there's no evidence that anybody actually did call for Obama to be killed. Yes? And when the Secret Service looked into that question of fact, that story was debunked. Yes?

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Submitted by gqmartinez on

Twenty seconds on The Google finds this article with quotes from audience members.

Here's one quote from the article:

“She was just great,” said Everett Holmes, a Vietnam veteran and McCain supporter since 2000. “But I expected more red meat . . . more excitement.”

And here is another:

Elaine Shuler, a 30-year-Navy veteran, wore a bright red jacket, red, white and blue scarf and spoke of the McCain/Palin “strong patriotic vision . . We’re not looking for the country to turn into something else.”

So either the Boston Herald is making up quotes or Dana Milbank is lying or something.

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that someone yelled "kill him" when the secret service investigation said it is unfounded. But you say that 140 stories saying that it did happen counter that investigation. But the 140 stories come from a single source. So you'd rather believe the single source than the secret service investigation.
as for the rest of your post, gibberish to me. but i don't have the first class intellect or temperament to understand nuance.
admin_lambert said it better.

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Submitted by ElizabethF on

or support. But...so what? Obermann (sic) wanted Hillary murdered and I don't remember anyone getting in a tizzy, Many of the progressive bloggers and Obama prostrates said Kill the bitch. Few, if any, of the immatures batted an eye.

Let me be clear.....I loathe the man. I happen to think he is damaged and wounded psychologically. However, I would not want anything to happen to him. I want to see the country after his first term....Heh

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Submitted by bringiton on

Not picking on you but hey, you brought it up; KO did nothing of the sort.

The phrase "taken into a room and only one of them comes out" is coarse and crude indeed but it is used all the time in regard to men and no one bats an eye. It certainly doesn't mean "kill" in any way. In the macho mind the use with Hillary was an expression of equality - I know, but they're weird in many ways - and could be seen as a sign of progress.

In that world, physical confrontation or the posturing around it is how you define yourself in the heirarchy; even if you lose, you've established a level of credibility as someone to be reckoned with. For KO to put Hillary in that context is to accept her power and stature as a competitor; very odd to those uninitiated, to be sure, but in their world it was a compliment.

KO is what happens when sportscasters are turned into general news commentators. All outrage and us/them constructs and simplification and slang. The really sad part is that he is better than most of what we get on the tube these days, and that is not a compliment.

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[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by bringiton on

when you have the time.

Lots of interesting fodder for perceptual interpretation discussions from this election, richer in that than anything since maybe Johnson-Goldwater.

I know exactly what KO was trying to say, and when I heard him I thought it was crass but certainly not an actual expression of violence and certainly not misogyny. There are a lot of these misunderstandings, on both sides of Obama v. Hillary and Obama v. McCain; a book on perception and cultural disconnect, waiting to be written.

Submitted by hipparchia on

[fasten your seatbelts, i'm about to agree with bio on something...]

i've spent waaaaay too much of my working life in the company of overly macho dudes, but i took it much the same way bio did -- by using that particular metaphor, olbermann [and by extension, his audience] tacitly acknowledged that hillary is one of the guys [unfortunate and stoopid, but true: guys are much-higher-status beings in testosteroneworld than are mere grrrls].

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happens to be the world of patriarchy, in which violence against women (and anyone else if possible) is accepted as okay. You may not think the comment indicated violence, but it does to most women.* The fact that you understood it as crass and yet STILL think it was complimentary simply indicates how ingrained your misogyny is.

Feminism (from the 60s and 70s, not this inverted philosophical misogyny being spouted by "neo-feminists") includes breaking the culture of violence against all creatures. It is not a compliment to offer to whup someone's butt. If, in fact, that was the only threat that was meant in the "take her into another room" comment, then it's violent and offensive. But as so often happens when you "good ole boys" get your testosterone going, the whupping almost always brings with it some form of sexual humiliation and degradation, most often, but not always, rape. And that was what made almost all of the women I know (except the most fervant koolaid drinkers) cringe with horror and disbelief. Using your same logic, the GOP could offer to put Obama, a tree, and a rope together and claim they never meant a lynching party. Still offensive to many of us, but apparently not to you based on the logic you offer here.

The fact that men like you are so willing to accept someone's offer of physical violence as acceptable discourse doesn't make it any less violent to women. And it doesn't make it right.

You really don't get this issue.

I wish I could stay and debate this, but I'm off for a long weekend after working 6-7 days/week since April. I leave it to these many other capable women to respond further to your misogyny.

*Let me footnote here that you will likely find women who don't think it violent. That doesn't bolster your argument. History is replete with people who belong to a minority group who work against their own interests. See, e.g., Clarence Thomas, Wade Connerly.

Like matter and anti-matter, Republicans and the truth are unable to occupy the same space.

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Submitted by bringiton on

and we'll chew on it.

So far, we have agreement that each of us thinks the other doesn't get it. There are worse places to start. Happy to chat with you whenever you please.

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Submitted by Sarah on

when Olbermann called for Hillary's murder.
I did the best I could which was post here and comment elsewhere.

Lambert: I'm not assassinating character based on youth.
I'm responding in kind to disrespect, trying to tailor my response to my audience.


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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The comment is not directly to you (turn threading on, you'll see.)

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Here.

Now, I realize that repeating and amplifying false charges worked very well for Obama in the primaries, so from a purely instrumental perspective it might make sense to, er, shoot the messenger on this one in the general. All of which is one reason I'm looking forward to an Obama administration -- and I fully expect Obama to win -- so very, very much. Not.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Who said reporters couldn't interview rally audience members despite http://www.correntewire.com/unfounded_allegations#comment-120301easy repudiation?

So, Mr. Milbank makes a pretty bold comment about someone shouting "kill him" which turns out false. He then writes about reporters not being able to interview rally audiences which the very quickest of Google searches shows is false. Did Dana Milbank try this sort of stuff during the primary? Worth checking into.

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full fledged food fight breaks out just when I've gone off to work in the yard for a couple of hours and then go run (er, make that walk) a few errands. Basta! I just don't want to play....I've got my hands full carrying on civil email correspondence with long time friends who for the past six months have filled my inbox with their Obamania.

BTW, one of my errands (vide infra) was to pick up a book from the library that I had placed a "hold" on approximately 3 months ago. The book? Mohamed El-Erian's "When Markets Collide". HEH. Great timing.

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I guess I have to learn to do that; I have 'em set up "flat".

(oh, and "search" still tells me "you are not authorized to access this page).


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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on longer threads, posts at the bottom seem to come out of nowhere and can be confusing when not in the proper context. And folks who use threading often forget to mention who they are replying too.

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Comment viewing options, change to threaded from flat.

Useful for detecting pie trajectories...

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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back to the comment I'm responding to, right?

Let's see if that helps me be more coherent.

Now, if I could just figure out why video doesn't work today (it worked yesterday, dammit).


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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The key point of the post was the simple question of fact: Did somebody call out "Kill him," referring to Obama, at a Palin rally?

My answer is No, based on the evidence presented. I'm glad gq took the trouble to set this one straight.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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whipped cream in a Wagner Power Painter (tm).

No. I didn't think of this all by myself.
My dearly beloved did, though, apropos of a discussion of appropriate pranks at work.


We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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This from BTD is interesting.

[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

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Submitted by ElizabethF on

Hillary, who I supported, received a gift during the campaign....Obama and the RBC. Were it not for them and the brush off the shoulder of the misogyny in addition to their pathological need for power and control, Hillary would not have had millions of women covering her back. My guess is that she said a Thank you j prayer because we kept her in.

Do I believe she is the most qualified - Yes. Do I think she would have honored her rhetoric in re the middle class - Yes. Be the best of anyone offered as President - Yes.

However, Hillary Clinton is a pol. Speaking for me only, I see her as a woman who has has finally learned to play by the rules....let us abuse you and then we'll use you. What that tells me is there are no politicians who value the country above themselves and their pocketbooks. That includes Hillary Clinton.

Clinton wants to stay in the Senate and she damn well better play the closed society of the Senate game. Shut your mouth and get to work wench.

Nuff said. She's looking out for Hillary Clinton. She is a politician.

C

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Arlington, Va.: The Secret Service has now labeled the "kill him" report as unfounded. Why isn't The Post giving this report as much coverage as the original false report received?

Dana Milbank:

Glad you asked, because I saw this earlier. This is actually about the incident in Scranton, not the one in Clearwater, Fla, that I wrote about here.

I wasn't at the Scranton event, but I have to say the Secret Service is in dangerous territory here. In cooperation with the Palin campaign, they've started preventing reporters from leaving the press section to interview people in the crowd. This is a serious violation of their duty -- protecting the protectee -- and gets into assisting with the political aspirations of the candidate. It also often makes it impossible for reporters to get into the crowd to question the people who say vulgar things. So they prevent reporters from getting near the people doing the shouting, then claim it's unfounded because the reporters can't get close enough to identify the person.
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We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
1 John 4:18

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