For Dana, not only are lunatics reponsible for the implosion of the Bush + Reid + Pelosi + Obama + Paulson trillion dollar bailout bill, they're also responsible for a drop in the Dow.
Look, how many times do I have to say this?
1. If it takes an act of Congress to prop up the Dow, the Dow is fucked. Further:
2. If it takes an act of Congress to prop up the Dow, we don't even have a free market.
3. It doesn't take an act of Congress to prop up the Dow. All it takes is a rational policy, and that policy (as the IMF study of 42 bailouts shows) does not include having the government buy up the toxic assets!
And, oh yeah, the "lunatics" were responding to pressure from voters.
The definition of sanity in the Village
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Exactly Lambert
Great post. You are laying it all out so clearly, 1,2,3. Love the 42 country study reference, exactly right.
I thought all those GOPers who voted yes for the bail-out were for the free market. I guess they're against nationalizing everything, except their own debt? (and the debt of their wealthy contributers?)
And yeah, insanity=listening to voters. Publicly elected representatives representing their voters=insanity.
Voters against Paulson's Fix are "irrational" per Al Hunt on
Charlie Rose last night. He was on with Floyd Norris, who said the banks were holding the economy hostage to force a bailout. Video not yet available.
It was a beautiful moment--being called irrational by one of the centrist (?) Village
MCMers. Just great.
Many of the MCMers/Villagers have swallowed whole the Paulson/Bernanke dire warnings that the economic world will collapse without Paulson being able to thrown $7Billion at the banksters.
Of course, he would never use the word "bankster."
"Bankster"
You mean like Hank Paulson and his Merry Banksters?
Have to use that one.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Part of the Problem: No Alternative to Paulson Plan
has been 'seriously considered' (Rep. Lloyd Dogget's phrase) by the Dem leaders. Have you heard Nancy, Harry, Chris, Barney, or Barack mention HOLC or talk about anything other than how to dress up the current disaster? I sure haven't. Everybody keeps saying there is a problem and the people at the center of this offer only one solution. Now, good journalists will look around to see if there are other solutions, but we don't have many of those. So we have people screaming there's a problem and only one proposed solution, which has been rejected.
Of course, I don't view it as a coincidence that none of the people at the center of this have mentioned HOLC (not even as something to be done in the future, from what I can tell). They are all happy with a dressed up giveaway.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
The reason why there is no alternative....
Is that they've renamed the problem. It used to be about bad mortgages, and HOLC solved that. Now its about "liquidity", and its not just about bad mortgages, but "distressed assets" in general.
As for the liquidity crisis, I don't believe in it. The Fed can make short term loans to commercial banks based on the lowest possible interest rates -- forget LIBOR and interbank lending, just go straight to the Fed. And since the Fed knows which banks are solid, it knows which banks its okay to lend to at the lowest rate --- and which banks to put "conditions" on the short term loans.
Ah yes, the shifting justifications along with the NOW NOW NOW
Just like Iraq. Just like FISA.
[ ] Very tepidly voting for Obama [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
Well, Lambert, since you put it so well! FDR used "banksters"-
based on something I read somewhere on the web....
Love it! Paulson and his Merry Banksters Doing the Hanky Panky!
From Wiki Answers:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_hanky_...
"Bush Sidesteps Congress? $630 Billion To Be Pumped Into Economy
-- "The Federal Reserve will pump an additional $630 billion into the global financial system, flooding banks with cash to alleviate the worst banking crisis since the Great Depression.
The Fed increased its existing currency swaps with foreign central banks by $330 billion to $620 billion to make more dollars available worldwide. The Term Auction Facility, the Fed’s emergency loan program, will expand by $300 billion to $450 billion. The European Central Bank, the Bank of England and the Bank of Japan are among the participating authorities.
The Fed’s expansion of liquidity, the biggest since credit markets seized up last year, came hours before the U.S. House of Representatives rejected a $700 billion bailout for the financial industry. ..." -- http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/29...
Came "Hours Before"
interesting. Goes to my theory that this bill will not solve the problem and they know it.
"Do what you feel in your heart to be right -- for you'll be criticized anyway. You'll be damned if you do, and damned if you don't. " - Eleanor Roosevelt
Triple Bingo, Lambert
This nation's so-called leadership is rotting, and the response to this manufactured crisis shines a light on this decay. If Congress doesn't say no to this latest Bush administration attempt to rob this nation blind, then they are through for years and maybe even decades, to come. I don't think people get it. It won't matter which party or candidate wins the presidency or keeps or wins control of Congress if this gets through. The crisis here really doesn't have anything to do about the financial market, and everything to do about a crisis in leadership. If we say yes to this, we'll have finally sold our soul part-and-parcel to fear. This isn't about money, this is about breaking the American spirit once and for all.
But, we've always been at war with Eastasia...