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Weekend Plantidote 2012-11-24

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mystery mushrooms

mystery mushrooms

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mystery mushrooms
Usually there are tons of mushrooms starting in October, but they're late this year. It was a particularly dry summer and the autumn rains started late. After a hearty Thanksgiving meal, I decided to see what was out in the garden......Don't have a clue as to what they are.

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Submitted by insanelysane on

Years ago, I took a mycology class at UC Berkeley and the class hiked the Inverness ridge in north SF Bay. About 45 students hunted and gathered about 120 different species of fungi. We spread them all out on tarps and identified them...or tried to.
That was not easy. We used a "key" process where you track it and identify by the process of elimination.
Spore prints and where the fungi was collected gave clues, but the process told me it was dangerous to rely on first judgements in identifying. Unless you are positive about a mushroom, don't eat. The first time you positively identify one for eating only one person should eat it in case of error, there will be someone to rush you to emergency room or poison center !!

The most common mushroom eaten in US is the Agaricus mushroom. ( Portobella, Crimini)
It has white gills. Only one member of the white gilled ones that won't kill you ... most all the others will
( Avoid eating white gilled mushrooms that you find).
The most deadly mushroom family : Amanitas look incredibly like the Agaricus one and is often mistaken for it by amateurs.
Ironic that the most widely cultivated edible mushroom in the world has white gills just like the most deadly!

here is a well known mushroom hunter saying: "There are old mushroom hunters. There are bold mushroom hunters. But there are no old, bold mushroom hunters!"

Submitted by lambert on

.. what the heck are those holes in the stump?

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

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Submitted by insanelysane on

Cut down tree.
Drill holes in stump.
Pour in root killer stuff.

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Submitted by jmacwa on

I was going to say Carpenter Bees :) .... but insanlysane got it right... I cut down the tree, then drilled the holes to speed up the rot of the stump... I skipped the root killer stuff.

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Submitted by NWLuna on

the underside of the caps, and without a spore print.

First pic might be Naematoloma aka Hypholoma capnoides, smoky-gilled woodlover, which is considered tasty if mild. Or if the color is really more orangey or greenish, it could be Naemotoloma fasciculare, clustered woodlover or sulfer tuft, which is supposed to be bitter-tasting.
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Hypho... Check out the links to other photos, too.

Where the mushrooms in pic 2 growing in a sortof circle? In that case they could be marasmius oreades, although those are usually lighter in color. They are considered good to eat. Caps only; stems are tough.
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Maras...

Or possibly a Laccaria. L laccata?
http://www.mykoweb.com/CAF/species/Lacca...

However, there are zillions of mushroom species, and yours, at least the 2nd, fall under the dreaded Little Brown Jobs category. That means at least a few hundred possibilities to rule out. When in doubt, throw it out! is good advice.

But there are some good edible white-gilled mushrooms. I have just dried a couple of quarts of Lepiota rachodes, aka Shaggy Lepiota, and made pizza toppings of the remainder (homemade pizza dough too!). Harvested 2 pickings from a local park, and I'm not telling which one ;-)

Other edible white-gilled mushrooms:
Lepiota naucina
Tricholoma magnivelare/Armillaria ponderosa aka Matsutake
Pleurocybella porrigens or Angel Wings,
the edible Russalas

Haven't bought store mushrooms in years, but don't their gills change from white to brown with age -- from button stage to fully opened caps? The wild Agaricus have changeable gills. Agaricus bisporus is the small common store mushroom; don't know the species name for the Portobello tho its genus is definitely Agaricus.

Enough of my nattering about 'shrooms. Off to make mushroom soup!