Lieberman went after Obama.

I see nothing in the report that says he went after Lieberman because he's wrong on his position on the Middle East.

Where was he when he could've helped try to defeat Lieberman? Where has he been in denouncing Lieberman's policy positions or calling him out on failing to investigate the Bush Administration's failures related to Katrina as Lieberman promised?

Obama is fantastic fighting for Obama. But I see nothing in this that leads me to believe this indicates any kind of interest in leading on policy. I wish I did. I keep looking at the guy for something that gives me hope. I want to feel like I can support the nominee. But I don't see anything new here.

Eh, maybe I'm just cranky because I made the mistake of re-reading Obama's lecture to bloggers on how they should stop pushing for politicians to fight for progressive issues and instead embrace the centrism. It was very Lieberman-esque (before Lieberman gave up centrism for out-right Republicanism).

Angry Black!!!

/snark

*yawn*

Any Obama comments on FISA yet?

I know that there's a lot of hatred out there for Joe Lieberman, but it does seem like the only "good" news in this report is that if you hate Lieberman you get to see Obama humiliate him or try to on the Senate floor. The joy people take in this, I'm afraid has more to do with Lieberman than Obama.

I'm not Lieberman fan, he's a first class wanker as far as I'm concerned. But I admit I never understood the obsession with him in the Connecticut primary since we have plenty of first class wankers in the Democratic caucus (and yes I hated his NYT editorial too). And, it seems to me, that if you're going to do something like drive a sitting Democratic Senator from the party, you also had better make damned sure you drive him from his seat. It's like everyone threw a giant celebration because we drove the wanker out, but he's still a sitting U.S. Senator. Only now he's one with a grudge against his former party. Sure, if the Dems pick up enough seats this Fall, Lieberman will lose his influence, but he's done considerable damage already. Not the least of which is his refusal to hold any oversight hearings, including on Katrina. Something I think he might've been pressured to do had he not been driven from the Democratic Party. Now, we have no leverage over him whatsoever.

Again, no fan of holy Joe's. I would've loved to see him lose to Lamont in 2006. Obama, of course, did little to nothing to make that happen. Perhaps that's something the Illinois Senator should remember the next time Joe Lieberman attacks him. And after this little show Obama put on, you can bet there will be a next time.

It is sobering, I think, to consider that if Florida had gone the other way in 2000 we would have had eight years of relative peace and prosperity under Gore, leading to a June of 2008 where the Democratic nominee and odds-on favorite for the presidency would have been Joe Lieberman.

Sometmes it is difficult to know what "better" means.

ages--that he never mentored him in the Senate, about his open and visible support for him against Lamont, ....

This was more theater, but won't help him.

Kabuki theatre, for example, is quite literally composed of ritualized gestures:

We found a particularly extreme form of ritualization among the actors of the classical kabuki theater in Tokyo, whose "plays" consist largely of motor patterns established by tradition. The female roles are taken by men.
The kabuki woman – as we shall call this hermaphroditic performer for simplicity's sake –
conveys agitation by a slight shaking of the head. This signal tells the audience, "I am excited." But the audience must gauge whether the excitement is pleasurable or distressing from the remainder of the action. The sign for impatience is similar but clearly distinguishable. The entire upper part of the body sways to and fro in a ritualized movement which is as simple as it is effective. I filmed a Samoan woman performing almost exactly the same swaying motion in real life. Classical tradition forbids a Japanese girl to flirt openly. All smiles must be hidden by the hand, and the focus of attention is revealed only by a slight inclination of the head and the direction of the veiled glance. The kabuki woman conveys weeping by shaking her head and wiping away tears with a ritualized gesture similar to one which we found among Siamese dancers. Stamping the foot as a sign of rage is an ageold human gesture derived from the step taken preliminary to an attack. Similar movements are found among animals. The kabuki woman expresses weariness by a highly ritualized gesture: The hand is placed flat against the cheek, and the head inclined and moved gently to and fro. Here the hand symbolizes the pillow on which the head would like to rest, and the movement of the head conveys the actor's impatience at his inability to achieve the desired state. Another ritualized gesture

(original book page 150)

expresses jealousy: The kabuki woman turns her head slightly to one side, places the tip of her scarf in her mouth, bites on it (pulling the scarf downward with both hands at the same time), focuses her gaze on the object of her jealousy, and moves her head back and forth. The act of biting the tip of the scarf represents a redirected minatory movement. The bite is not really directed at the scarf but at an object of hatred.
The kabuki man, by contrast, is not allowed to convey agitation by means of physical movement. Classical tradition enjoins the male Japanese to practice self-control. Here, ritualized lip movements have become the means of communication. When portraying a father whose son has disgraced the family, the performer assumes a majestic pose and stands completely motionless. Only his lips move, twitching in a prescribed manner. Extreme fury is conveyed by parting the lips still farther, baring the eyeteeth, and intensifying the twitch of the lips. Indeed, the whole face begins to twitch and the eyes roll – a permissible sign that the man is losing his self-control entirely. The kabuki man is, however, allowed to portray the convulsive movements of uncontrollable grief quite openly. He does not hide his face until the advent of tears.

Pas si bete.

Sure, in a just world, there'll be some outcome in terms of policy.

But for now, for this, and for a flurry of similar gestures we shall doubtless see on our way to make up sex, my attitude is "If it were meaningful, it would already have happened."

As Anglachel argues:

You gain legitimacy by being willing to risk power. This is the root cause of Obama's failure to be a unifying figure even as he preaches Unity. Obama would have lost some power in relation to Clinton early on by being willing to seat Florida and revote Michigan (I have said before that had he agreed to an immediate MI revote he would have won that state), but he would have gained an immeasurable amount of legitimacy with the voters, which would be paying off now.

There's no risk now, so the gesture is less meaningful than it might otherwise have been.

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] ?????. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

"U.S. Sen. Barack Obama rallied Connecticut Democrats at their annual dinner Thursday night, throwing his support behind mentor and Senate colleague Joe Lieberman.

Obama, an Illinois Democrat who is considered a rising star in the party, was the keynote speaker at the annual Jefferson Jackson Bailey Dinner.

Lieberman, Connecticut's junior senator, is under fire from some liberal Democrats for his support of the Iraq War. He was key in booking Obama, who routinely receives more than 200 speaking invitations each week.

Some at Thursday's dinner said that while they were pleased with Lieberman's success in bringing Obama to Connecticut, they still consider Lieberman uncomfortably tolerant of the Bush administration.

Obama wasted little time getting to that point, calling it the "elephant in the room" but praising Lieberman's intellect, character and qualifications.

"The fact of the matter is, I know some in the party have differences with Joe. I'm going to go ahead and say it," Obama told the 1,700-plus party members who gathered in a ballroom at the Connecticut Convention Center for the $175-per-head fundraiser.

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf," he said. ..." -- Obama rallies state Democrats, throws support behind Lieberman

I get the creepy feeling this story was manufactured by Axelrod to show how "tough" Barry is with the Dems who get out of line. A sop and a "thank you" to the Cheeto site? Cuz they hate Holy Joe so much? Lieberman was after all the first target of mass cheeto mania back a zeon ago.

Among all the Dems with "problems" Lieberman is just low hanging fruit.. a two-fer.. 1) he criticised me, he's a bad bad man; and 2) when i yell at him I'll make sure the DeeKoos kidz know all about it so they can cheer.

Heh, wonder how "daddy" Holy Joe bore up getting a finger wagged in his face by the "kid" he used to dandle on his knee during the bi-partisanship lessons?

another unity moment from the Obama party.

-barf-

dupager

FINALLY someone did. I honestly wonder how the Democrats can respect themselves for letting that punkass continually show up as a traitor. It's breathtaking what damage he is allowed to do. I was completely behind Lamont. Very disapointed when Joe made his sleazy way back in. I respect Obama all the more for telling saggyass joe wtf's up. Finally has some cojones in that particular annoying scenario.
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.delusions of un mundo mejor.

How did Obama ever find it in his heart to support Liebermann when he was SO-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-H against the invasion of Iraq in 2002? I mean, with his superior judgment and all, how could he ever have stumped for someone who voted for AUMF? And against an anti-war candidate, to boot?

And how do you know Barack wasn't trying to convince joe to fill the veep slot on the Dem ticket, rather than running with McCain? Just saying...

Anybody there?

This reminds me of the time Obama sneezed/blew his nose/coughed on stage and 20,000 bots all started cheering.

Let's keep our heads here.

why?

aipac.

repeat

aipac.

obama was running for prez back then, despite what he told all of us about "thinking it over in jan, 2007".

obama was running for prez when he ran for the senate from illinois.

got it?

he was suddenly pressed into service to run for prez because illinois governor rod blogojevitch, whose was supposed to run, had developed some,

er,

"legal issues".

conclusion:

obama's run for prez

is not virgin birth,

repeat,

not virgin birth.

his run for prez is daley machine and illinois state machine (the combine) politics.

read

evelyn pringle

has anyone taken little joe by his tight little hand and told him what was on page 1 of the world news?

joe lieberman's god is israel--he's entitled to worship whatever he wants, but getting hand jobs from end timers and the red heifer crowd ain't gonna revive his hypoxic brain, it only makes his eyes roll back further. he is a malignant man--his last hurrah is a pile of splintered bones crushed by the merchants of war. thanks, joe.

++++

and thank you for the kind words.

Now you know you've got an obligation -- if you can't feed the hamsters cash, you can contribute to the discussions in ways that will draw more people into them.

After all, someone brought you here with something they wrote.
So pass it on.

(We're Democrats. We understand that money's not the only thing that matters.)

Pas si bête translates literally as “[I am] not so stupid" but is more accurately a colloquialism roughly meaning "tell me another," an expression of incredulity or disbelief at the claim or presentation of another.

I'm not lambert either; he seems to have wandered off somewhere with a bucket of Tuscan Red paint. I’m sure he’ll be fine….

Give me a pronouncing guide, please! No tengo la idioma de frances.