If you have "no place to go," come here!

What do you mean, "developing"?


Faith in democracy is another victim. In the developing world, people look at Washington and see a system of government that allowed Wall Street to write self-serving rules which put at risk the entire global economy—and then, when the day of reckoning came, turned to Wall Street to manage the recovery. They see continued re-distributions of wealth to the top of the pyramid, transparently at the expense of ordinary citizens. They see, in short, a fundamental problem of political accountability in the American system of democracy. After they have seen all this, it is but a short step to conclude that something is fatally wrong, and inevitably so, with democracy itself.

Well, let's hope people don't take that step. In fact, in Thailand and now Iran, it looks like people didn't.

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Submitted by jawbone on

shooting into the air, then shooting at protesters. One wounded person shown; one reported shot dead. This seems to be the protest where 6 or 7 were killed.

An Iranian professor who voted for Mousavi was on On Point (heard last evening in NYC area) said Ahmadinejad was the winner by all reports and that the earlier vote count totals were due to this being the first year the elections were computerized.

Now, since he is in Iran and may not want to lose his job, perhaps his conclusions are suspect, but whatever polling was taken also showed Ahmdinijad leading.

It also suits the US policies against Iran to try to create an image of Iran as unstable, its president without popular support, and to continue to work to create internal strife and dissension. Millions were funded under Bush to assist opposition inside Iran. (The US government might consider that, well, illegal or something were other countries to do that here.) The US also is accused of flooding Iran with, get this!, Afghan heroin. Oh, and there are those Special Ops going into Iran, trying to foment rebellion among minority groups.

I don't know if there was vote manipulation in Iran. I do think we should consider how the US may well have tried to work one of those colored Velvet Revolutions against established governments the US does not favor. Green this time? It's brought Saakashvilli in Georgia, among other winners. The EU has now established Saakashvillii did indeed start the war in last summer, the one our government and the MCM breathlessly reported as a Russian invasion. Perhaps that's why the Iranian government shut down cell phones, internet sites. They've seen what the US backed "coups" do with these methods of communication.

Has BushCo/Obama succeeded in destabilization? Time will tell. But, while having no love for Ahmadinijad, he has done some remarkable things for the poorest of Iranians, something I only learned about by reading Moon of Alabama's posts and comments, which might explain his winning reelection. Medical care for 22 million who had none, university educations in the Azeri language. (Link to be supplied)

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Submitted by Aeryl on

The dangers of imperial rulers who attempt to provide for their citizens as well.

We, apparently, are supposed to trust our rulers imperial aspirations, because they neglect us instead.

Submitted by jawbone on

on South Ossetia:

Unpublished documents produced by the European Union commission that investigated the conflict between Georgia and Moscow assign much of the blame to Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili. But the Kremlin and Ossetian militias are also partly responsible.


.... The confidential investigative commission documents, which SPIEGEL has obtained, show that the task of assigning blame for the conflict has been as much of a challenge for the commission members as it has for the international community. However, a majority of members tend to arrive at the assessment that Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili started the war by attacking South Ossetia on August 7, 2008. The facts assembled on Tagliavini's desk refute Saakashvili's claim that his country became the innocent victim of "Russian aggression" on that day.

In summarizing the military fiasco, commission member Christopher Langton, a retired British Army colonel, claims: "Georgia's dream is shattered, but the country can only blame itself for that."

Another commission member, Bruno Coppieter, a political scientist from Brussels, even speculates whether the Georgian government may have had outside help in its endeavor. "The support of Saakashvili by the West, especially military support," Coppieter writes, "inadvertently promoted Georgia's collision course."

Submitted by jawbone on

on things Ahmadinejad did for lower socio-economic groups:

Though he holds many of the levers of power, Ahmadinejad is proud of his status as an outsider. He says the country's political class has drifted away from its religious and revolutionary roots. Since his surprise election in 2005, he has constantly attacked Iran's post-revolutionary elites, contending that they long ago gave up fighting for the "barefooted" masses and began doing business deals from their villas on the slopes of affluent North Tehran.

Ahmadinejad has turned the Iranian economy upside down, making sure that advantages flow to the lower class. His government has increased state wages and pensions and has made health insurance free for 22 million people. He derides economists who blame him for high inflation and unemployment, saying that they are tied to the higher classes and that his goal is to "spread justice."

But his support does not come solely from the downtrodden. He is also backed by a small group of hard-line Islamic clerics and leaders of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps who share his resentment toward the West, his calls for Iran to occupy its rightful place as a world power and his championing of Iran's nuclear program.

Sorry for late link