until a few weeks ago.

Obama had a 20 point lead until recently in NC, and a single digit lead in Indiana.

Although recent polls predicted Hillary would do better than she did, she still won Indiana and was never expected to win NC.

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Real ponies don’t oink- Patrick McManus

with the battered woman analogy. Because it’s really different. I’m pretty sure I’m not going to develop (worse) PTSD because of this.

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If you feel that the metaphor is over the top (no PTSD, though gawd knows I’ve got hypertension), wha’s a better alternative?

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

but I do know I have never in my life seen abuse like I have this year. I’ve been called every name in the book from total strangers. Even worse, it’s comiing from “our side.”

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Real ponies don’t oink- Patrick McManus

NOT the same.

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right now lambert, still trying to do thermal physics. ugh. tired.

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I’m pretty sure I had a touch of something very close to PTSD after our Kansas Caucus. It was brutal. And punishing. And I was in shock afterwards. With nightmares. Trying to think of how I could have done things differently. Made things better. Racing heart. Depression that didn’t lift for a minute for nearly 6 weeks. And I was sick almost non-stop from then to now.

I don’t think it was full-blown PTSD but, I don’t ever want to get closer to it than that.

I could dig up ScoutFinch’s description of my caucus and you’ll understand why it was so horrific but, it’s at dKos and I don’t go there anymore.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail…

“…”There were elements of the Republican Party, including Rush Limbaugh, Sen. Clinton’s new ally, who were urging people to cross over and vote for her,” said Axelrod, referring to the Limbaugh-led “Operation Chaos,” a bid to disrupt Obama’s path to the nomination and prolong a divisive primary battle. “She obviously was somewhat a beneficiary of that.”
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Earlier, before either North Carolina or Indiana were called, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton sent out the transcript of Limbaugh’s Tuesday radio blast. …”

and expected, like any good wife, to close up ranks and put a good face on things to hide the guilty secret from the community.

No, no, it’s okay. We’re really a happy family.

I’ve lived in a home where battering took place and I won’t back off the metaphor.

Between the Kantor thing and the Gary thing, I’m going to have a very hard time “getting over it.” Assuming she goes on today (and I think she will if for no other reason than to keep Obama from losing WVA and KY with no active opponent, embarrassing), I’ll probably throw her $20 to thank her for trying to save the democrats from themselves.

Besides, I think fundraising was the main reason for the Gary mindfuck and it’s the one way to strike back. Of course, if Obama could win more than 40% of the white vote, his campaign wouldn’t need to do shit like this.

BTW, if any pollster calls about Obama, I’m saying McCain all the way. It doesn’t bind my vote and maybe if enough white women and blue collar workers do it, someone in the democratic party will act like they give a damn. Oh, and no money to the DNC, the DSCC, or the DCCC. Fuck ’em.

Of course the reason for the Gary mindfuck was about fundraising and headlines…both made impossible last night because of the hold out by Lake County.

But I think the ultimate protest is to withdraw your ultimate commitment to Blue…as in BDBlue => BDPurple

let’s mindfuck with them too.

And as for the metaphor, I applied to myself. I did not presume to speak for anyone else. I too, as a child, lived in a home where battering took place. I kinda know what I’m talking about and I can recognize abuse when I see it.

As for the democratic establishment, unless HRC’s the nominee, they’ll get:

not a dime of my money

not a second of time

not an ounce of my passion for democracy and politics

So I’ll be damned if I’ll give it up. :-) Although I might edit my call sign to make that more clear.

I’m not sure what is a better metaphor, perhaps the abuse and ridicule that fat kids face, especially in high school, and especially fat girls. No matter what they do they are taunted, ridiculed and insulted — they are assumed to be stupid or foolish, and they are often derided as being sexless and undesirable, and therefore unworthy of consideration on any level (Michael Wolfe, anyone?). Those who refuse to be bowed by their treatment are subjected to stepped-up attacks — their abusers have an enormous need to put them in their place. The people who should moderate and referee the abusive behavior (teachers, principals) often look the other way and pretend that there is nothing they can do — that they are powerless to step in and rectify the situation (DNC, congressional leaders?).

I don’t know, the level of misogyny and hatred in this campaign is mind-blowing, but I think conflating it with the constant physical abuse that battered women experience minimizes their suffering and confuses the discussion of the enormous damage that the misogyny is doing to our political body.

I’m not sure how else to classify it actually.

Quiet women?

Women who have learned to get along and not make waves.

Women who have learned how to be nice and friendly and not confrontational and questioning?

Questioning women are attacked from multiple sides, where is there a woman in media that emulates us and our values? Where are the single women who have children and survive without men in the media or in politics? Yet look at the percentages in rl? Minorities are better represented than real life female percentages. It is as if WE DO NOT EXIST.
The only women represented are acceptable to the media as being valid (Minority women are allowed to be seen publicly even if they are vocal and single mothers, gay females are allowed to be seen publicly if they are vocal and are single mothers. But women who are white who are vocal and single mothers who are not gay? women who are white who are vocal and single mothers who are over 40?)
We are the shunned minority. I don’t think there is a remedy. I don’t see one….
Even Gloria Steinem is shunned.

“The great divide in this country is not by race or even income, it’s by those who think they are better than everyone else and think they should play by a different set of rules,” —Bill Clinton

Jeqal:

Minority women are allowed to be seen publicly even if they are vocal and single mothers, gay females are allowed to be seen publicly if they are vocal and are single mothers. But women who are white who are vocal and single mothers who are not gay? women who are white who are vocal and single mothers who are over 40?

My issue with this statement is this: Women of Color, especially African-American women (for the most part), do not celebrate “single motherhood.” Many question the absence of their men, some join the fight against the world around them, others try to bridge the gap between them and the men in their community (among those who aren’t targeted by the Prison Industry - and even those who are). However, the majority simply soldier on in life.

So, while some media outlets will take a Black or Latina Single Mother make them “acceptable” to the populace at large (which, I also contend as false, considering that these two groups are blamed for “Criminals: The Next Generation” and “Sucking Hard-Earned Money Through Welfare for a Lavished House with Cable, Big Car, Etc.”), it is not the case for the communities in question - who have no choice about their surroundings and cannot stop and protest every time there is a negative proclamation made about them.

And, as a PoC, my take is simply that the media lens of Single Mothers of Color speaks more to the fact that the media at large has a real problem with showing PoC in a stable relationship of any kind - as far too often the WoC are not accurately or positively portrayed here - than it does for making SMoC “acceptable” characters in the mosaic of media consumption.

A gap needs to be bridged here. And I believe that we all need to take our feet of the accelerators for one second. I think of Tina Turner’s “I Don’t Wanna Fight” when I think of this Primary right now; there is too much pain being inflicted by and on all sides right now without regard for future consequences. And that saddens me.

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The enemy of my enemy is STILL my enemy. Those who forget this end up being Vulture scraps.

If you could get that link, it would be great, even if it is on Cheetopia. We need to start framing this caucus issue….

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Hillary won Indiana, didn’t she? She won! Obama lost!

Why are you all letting the haka dictate reality?

It’s the future consequences that I’m worried about. A little pain now is better than a lot of pain later. And something Atrios said at Eschacon which stuck with me (I paraphrase) is that inflicting pain is the only way to get their attention. So, if that’s what it takes…

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2…

I think I made an appearance. And she calls out (insultingly) a very dear friend.

I was in charge of credentials, so a lot of her fury is directed at me (not that she knew that) And not that she made any attempt to talk to me.

I’ve given you a link. But I get in a panic anytime I think about rereading it. Or defending myself.

It was a horrible, horrible night.

You can email me if you want more information about that Kansas Caucus katiebird@gmail.com

Esp. this:
I don’t know, the level of misogyny and hatred in this campaign is mind-blowing, but I think conflating it with the constant physical abuse that battered women experience minimizes their suffering and confuses the discussion of the enormous damage that the misogyny is doing to our political body.

I was thinking and I certainly do feel kicked around and such but (and you’ll excuse me if I don’t say why) I do not feel like I’m in a physically violent relationship.

I would sort of go there, but not that far. It’s definitely an unhealthy relationship and we’re getting the short end of it, especially with the idea that we are always going to come crawling back. It may seem like a small difference to some of you, but it really is a world of difference. (I’ve had friends in those kinds of relationships, not as bad as a DV situation.)

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