Left wing of what? Where do people take so much hate from? My mother didn’t hate with such ferocity the Germans after losing a baby and surviving Auschwitz.

This is a real change indeed.

Since Axelrod is the operator of what Newsweek (or is it Time?) hails as Obama’s “Dream Machine” (contrast to the Clinton Machine of Castration & Other Evils) one can’t help but wonder if “hope” is the ’08 version of Dubya’s “compassion?” I’m being serious. Remember, Obama already stated that we (“cynics”) are to blame—not the GOP.

Regarding Axelrod: I am taken aback by how casually despicable actually is (e.g., Hillary killed Bhutto!) versus the media portrayal of him as basically an “idealist” (think: the ends justify the means-type “idealist;” mind you the ends is center right capitulation).

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazi…

Axelrod is known for operating in this gray area, part idealist, part hired muscle. It is difficult to discuss Axelrod in certain circles in Chicago without the matter of the Blair Hull divorce papers coming up. As the 2004 Senate primary neared, it was clear that it was a contest between two people: the millionaire liberal, Hull, who was leading in the polls, and Obama, who had built an impressive grass-roots campaign. About a month before the vote, The Chicago Tribune revealed, near the bottom of a long profile of Hull, that during a divorce proceeding, Hull’s second wife filed for an order of protection. In the following few days, the matter erupted into a full-fledged scandal that ended up destroying the Hull campaign and handing Obama an easy primary victory. The Tribune reporter who wrote the original piece later acknowledged in print that the Obama camp had “worked aggressively behind the scenes” to push the story. But there are those in Chicago who believe that Axelrod had an even more significant role — that he leaked the initial story. They note that before signing on with Obama, Axelrod interviewed with Hull. They also point out that Obama’s TV ad campaign started at almost the same time. Axelrod swears up and down that “we had nothing to do with it” and that the campaign’s television ad schedule was long planned. “An aura grows up around you, and people assume everything emanates from you,” he told me.

get from Obama supporters. What Obama has done is unleash a lot of hatred. it all started with that 1984 ad he didn’t distance himself from. If Democratic ascendance was his primary goal, he would have shut that rhetoric down real fast even if it meant he wouldn’t have the same shot he would have with it. But he has burned bridges instead. Clinton is always gracious about Obama. She talks about how impressive he is. She says lovely things about his family. Last night, she said she was proud to share the stage with him. She’s always respectful of him, and it shows up even in her attacks. She has never struck first - with the possible exception of her comment about him being willing to meet within the first year of his presidency without proconditions. And that statement was, indeed, naive and irresponsible and quickly followed up, I might add, by his absolutely bellicose presentation to the Foreign Policy Council where he advocated unilateral attacks on Pakistan as part of his campaign rhetoric. Had he not come off as a lightweight in the first instant, he wouldn’t have needed to come off as a hardass in the second.

I’m missing the reference, basement angel. Got a link?

[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.

Remember

Assuming that Obama wins..(which I don’t see happening), but for the sake of argument, lets assume he does.
When the day after the Inauguration dawns upon us, and there are still troops in Iraq, what pray tell, will his supporters do then.
What if..Heavean forbid, The Divine Mr O, discovers that, why..you can’t just pull troops out of Iraq..and what, can you imagine, will happen if troops are still dying in Iraq a full 3 years into his presidency?
I can tell you now..we will still hear “Well, Hillary voted for the war”..and it will be just as infuriating as when Bush and Co blame Clinton for everything even after 7 years in office.
(On second thought, Clinton bashing will still be “in” thing among the Obama camp, I am sure)
So..assuming that there will still be troops in Iraq..can you see the folks at DU frothing and sneering about how you just can’t pull troops out of Iraq..Obama is doing the right thing…they will certainly proclaim. You can certainly imagine the flowing Kos diarists proclaiming that anyone who thinks it is as simple as just pulling troops out is being naive..and that Obama never said he would bring troops home.
And what if, after 3 years, Guantanamo is still up and running? What will happen when Saint Obama proclaims that you can’t just let these people out and you can’t expose them to the American legal system.
Expect the same cast of characters, who are now condeming Guantanamo, to suddenly rise up in its defence..perhaps Olberman will even do a special comment on it.
Ah yes…it will be sad to watch, but it is as predictable as the sun coming up tomorrow.
Joebasic
Recovered DU member

Oh. My. Fucking. Gawd. The OFB put this out, and now they’re whinging about being called fanatics? Thanks for the reminder, Xenophon. Wow.

Just as a lagniappe, I repost this exclusive footage of the OFB practicing their faux outrage: