Barney Frank is a divisive hater of ponies and all their works:
I think it is important to express my discomfort with a major theme of Senator Obama’s campaign. I am referring to his denigration of “the Washington battles of the 1990’s” and, usually implicitly but sometimes explicitly, of those who fought them.
I agree that it would have been better not to have had to fight over some of the issues that occupied us in the nineties. But there would have been only one way to avoid them — and that would have been to give up. More importantly, the only way I can think of to avoid “refighting the same fights we had in the 1990’s”, to quote Senator Obama, is to let our opponents win these fights without a struggle.
Bingo. More:
It would have been nice in the nineties not to have had to fight to defend a woman’s right to choose whether or not to have an abortion, and I would be very happy if that fight ended tomorrow. I was troubled when Newt Gingrich and his right wing band took over Congress after the election of 1994 and sought to put an end to programs to deal with continuing racial discrimination and the resulting inequality, and I am even more distressed that we have to continue to fight that battle against a Republican party largely opposed to all of these efforts — consider the Bush Justice Department and its role in dealing with people’s right to vote. As a gay man, additionally, I would have been delighted in the nineties if our conservative opponents had been willing to recognize our rights to be treated fairly under the law, and I would have saved a lot of time, as recently as this past year, if there was not continued strong right wing opposition to the “radical” position that people should not be denied jobs because of their fundamental nature, or that hate crimes based on sexual orientation and gender identity should be treated less seriously than those based on racial or religious prejudice. These are three of the major fights in which I was engaged in the nineties, and I literally do not understand what Senator Obama means when he says that he does not want to keep fighting them. I know that he understands that those who were opposed to all three of those causes in which many of us deeply believe in the nineties continue their opposition, and I do not understand how we can avoid fighting those battles other than by conceding them, which I know he does not advocate.
In some cases, Senator Obama does not seem to remember what some of the fights of the nineties were. I agree that it would be a good thing to have the 2008 election be in part “about whether to…pass universal health care” but that in fact is one of the central fights we had in the nineties. The effort of many of us to pass a universal health care plan is precisely one of the battles of the nineties, and it seems to me one that we very much want to keep fighting. Again, the only alternative to fighting it is losing it by concession.
Finally, I do take pretty strong exception to Senator Obama’s evenhanded denunciation of “the same bitter partisanship” of the nineties. It is true that American politics became much more partisan in the nineties, but that was primarily the result of the successful right wing takeover of the Republican Party, embodied at the time—he has since become a little more moderate for some tactical purpose—by Newt Gingrich. Again I do not think those of us who fought back against Gingrich’s poisoning of the atmosphere should apologize for that. If anything, the apologies should come from those who were too slow to respond. It was Gingrich and his right wing allies who decided to inject a much harsher note of partisanship by explicitly rejecting the notion that the Democrats were honorable people with whom they disagreed, and instead decided, as Gingrich’s own printed and taped materials argued, to portray us as treasonous, corrupt, immoral and otherwise vile. And when Gingrich was forced by his own flaws to step aside, Tom DeLay took up those cudgels with a little less rhetorical flourish but with an even heavier hand. If Senator Obama was denouncing the outrageous tactics of Gingrich and DeLay, I would be very much in support of his comments. Instead, he evenhandedly denounces the “bitter partisanship” of that period and seems to me to be distancing himself equally from the Gingrich/DeLay attack and the efforts of many of us to combat it.
Fine words butter no parsnips. Obama’s “unity” message, appealing though it is to some, is in its essence vacuous. I think he’s going to have to retool, and I doubt he’ll be able to do so. You can’t beat something with nothing, and Obama’s message is entirely content free. That’s the problem with staking everything on oratory.
Well, that’s not entirely fair, and I do always try to be fair.
Not even one-trick ponies.
NOTE Hat tip whothefuckisjohngalt.












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so good it's worth repeating:
I literally do not understand what Senator Obama means when he says that he does not want to keep fighting them
me too. what up, barry? splain that to me, a’ight?
and lambert: i hate parsnips. buttered or otherwise. can we say something like “fine words power no vibrating strap-ons” or “fine words clean no cat litter boxes” or something all of us parsnip haters can use too? thx.
"Fine words [verb] no [noun]"...
Fine words whipcream no pie
Fine words broil no sirloins
Fine words launch no rockets-to-the-sun [h/t 4lg]
Etc. We should make a list people can keep handy. Somehow I think we might have a market for such items as this campaign goes on. :)
Fine words pony up no pony
Yet, I do so love ponies.
ImJohnGalt
In the motherfuckin’ hizzy!
Seriously - just found you. Will be back for much, much more. Thanks.
P.S Can we get some cube roots as the math problem? Or mebbe some differential equations?
galt, you bring math to this blog, and i'll go all
comparative philological on your ass. seriously. my D+ grade math skillz are ready to take you on, i’ll post pr0n if i have to.
sorry, math makes me have nightmares. it’s sad, but i’m barbie-ized like that. one bad math teacher (a man, of course) and i’m broken. like so many women in this country. but i can respond! i’ll school your ass in shoes, hair dye, or sumerian. bring it on. anything i can do to prevent serious math chat, i’ll do it.
/i’m funnin wit you, bro/
Math? Sheeeeeeeyit. Pie R Squared. End of story.
Charlie Epps and Dr. Reid are making me believe, though, that if you’re hip enough to do the frackin’ math in your head, you can actually, like, predict stuff. Catch bad guys. Put a permanent stop to waterboarding, maybe even.
If you’re hip enough to the math, and can do it in your head, and anybody will believe you.
UNPLUG the voting machines — at the transformers!!!!!!
We can admit that we’re killers … but we’re not going to kill today. That’s all it takes! Knowing that we’re not going to kill today! ~ Captain James T. Kirk, Stardate 3193.0
Oh bosh. Pie R not square
Pie R round.
I got a blueberry one, homemade crust, Prince Namor can’t eat it fast enough even after I indulged him in that nasty whip cream in the spray can. (For the pie dammit, mind out of gutter please.) Anybody passing through W.Tn feel free to drop in for a piece.
:)
commenting for the unverified
I keep
this thing on the wall right next to my desk so i can easily submit comments.
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"is everyone here very Stoned?"
…sorry, obscure Buffy reference.
carry on, add on, subtract and divide the Namorites from those who know that math is only another form of vile torture.
water cannot be quantified. that’s all i know. swim on, and understand that wet or frozen, no two snowflakes/ocean particles are alike.
bubbles rising from…something
equations enjoined to the invisible machine
“If you’re anything like me, you could become obsessed with the unseen world and find yourself looking to upgrade your microscope one day.” (Reef Central/author unknown)
bubble, bubble, bubble… glug.
the answer is = 765
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Stallions of Defiance
What Barney Frank said. salute!
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Speaking of flaky piecrust, don't harsh the math nerd
100% serious if indeed Mr. Galt is serious on math.
I would love to increase my math skills, and I place it in the same DIY category as winemaking (or open source programming). Math is beautiful and it gives back. I regret so much that I didn’t grok it when I was growing up.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
Just not statistics.
Because people who understand statistics try to predict votes. And we all know how well that turns out.
Margin of error FTW!
pleez don't get yer love on us
I would love to increase my math skills
eeeeeks! just pleeezzzz don’t increase ours! the top of my desktop already looks like the wall next to a pay phone in a dirty bookstore. i’ll have to pay surly teenagers to slap my erasers together… try winemaking! Yes… winemaking is the path to True Grok.
jah wobblie - bubble, bubble…. hehehehe, glug.
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Fooled by randomness
I’ve been trying to understand Fooled by Randomness.
I wonder if it was anything to do with our current plight. Or possibly with quantum bogodynamics.
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
stop trying to figger it out
this is all yoo need to understand:
but my favorite was when the Chickenfuckers came and stole all the curly buds and all the chickens scratching the ground ate shredded plastic. blindsided by the random hidden chances in life again. some bogodynamic shit.
turn on the bubble machine.
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In lieu of Stan Freberg...
Not that kind of ruler!
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
masterpieces of the universe
all together right, what’s the matter, you don’t belive in togetherness?
i luv the utoob thang.
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Fine words butter no partisanship
But they should.