Why is Think Progress censoring links to http://pnhp.org in wonkroom?

lambert's picture

My goodness, I don't have any idea -- other than that they're following the administration's lead -- but that's what they're doing. Check these screen dumps:

1. Do the entry:

before

2. Submit the comment. Nada!

after

3. Test another URL:

before_1

4. It works!

after_1

So, links to http://pnhp.org are being censored. Why? Hey, try it for yourself!

All screen shots from here.

NOTE Big hat tip to DCBlogger for finding this.

UPDATE Think Progress boss John Podesta thinks the American political system "sucks". Via Bowers. Thanks to both of you for your help making the system what it is!

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They're dirty.

As in, compromised by a hidden agenda. (Isn't that what cops say of crooked cops?)

lambert's picture

Anybody got Podesta's email?

I fired this off to:

Jason Rahlan
202.481.8132
jrahlan [at] americanprogress [dot] org
health care, economy, civil rights

So we'll see what comes of it.

Jason:

I've noticed that the Wonk Room censors comments that include the following URL:

http://pnhp.org

which, as I'm sure you know, is the URL to the well-known single payer advocacy group Physicians for a National Health Program.

For the record, can I get the list of ALL the organizations whose URLs Think Progress censors? I'm sure your technical folks can easily provide it, and I'd like to advice [sic] my readers when to use full URLs, and when to use shortened URLs (as provided by the Bitly service, for example).

Thanks very much!

lambert strether

I'd like to mail Podesta, just in case there's a policy issue involved here, but his email address isn't on the site. Readers?

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vastleft's picture

Any possibility there's an innocent explanation? n/t

.

lambert's picture

Well, carelessness of some sort...

But that would mean to me that management isn't checking the blacklist (whether they manage it internally, or outsource it). But when Kos goes through, and HCAN goes through, and PNHP doesn't... WTF? Which is why I ask the question, "Why?"

Anyhow, they've got mail now that will allow them to rectify the situation. Hopefully, they'll act on it. (And, as I point out, it's not like we don't have precedent for this sprt of thing.)

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DCblogger's picture

seems unlikely

HCAN't's links for thru.

jumpjet's picture

I tried as well.

Tried to link Healthcare-NOW's website. Still in moderation since last night.

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lambert's picture

Can you try again and take some screen dumps?

Just like I did?

One single payer site censored could be an accident. Two? That looks more like a trend.

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jumpjet's picture

Sure, but not now.

I'm at school at the moment. I'll do it when I get home a little later this afternoon.

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sisterkenney's picture

posted comment 12/15 @1342...am still being "moderated"

here's the link (hope it works)..going nitey: http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/02/13/anthem-hikes/

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i didn't find contact info for podesta

but there's an email address for faiz shakir here. shakir and igor volsky [the wonk room's health care blogger] are the co-authors of howard dean's book on health care reform.

DCblogger's picture

co-authors eh?

well well well

a little night musing's picture

Yup, Healthcare-NOW! also being censored (or moderated anyway)

I did not put in corrente's url just in case they are censoring that (why would they? :>) and I only put in one link, just in case multiple links trigger moderation:

Type in my comment. Very innocuous and informative, no?

enter comment

Then hit preview:

preview comment

Then submit my comment and get put in moderation:

submit - and end up in moderation

I'm waiting for a reasonable explanation. But if one isn't forthcoming, I just may turn into the Incredible Hulk.

We can't afford not to have single-payer!

a little night musing's picture

I'm tempted to try other single-payer advocacy sites

But I'm tired, and have other work that needs doing, and it's occurred to me that their "excuse" may be that the comments are OT to the post, so I'd like to craft something that couldn't possibly be considered OT or else search for another post to comment on, but I'm too bored, annoyed, and busy to do that now.

But if anyone else wants to try, how about Labor for Single Payer? Just for one. Big conference coming up in March.

We can't afford not to have single-payer!

a little night musing's picture

wonkroom's let our comments out of moderation

some of them, anyway. Is this all of them, folks?

No explanation (that I have found) of why they were put there to begin with.

CORRENTE POWER! (hee hee)

We can't afford not to have single-payer!

lambert's picture

Heh

Any explanation?

First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. -- Mahatma Gandhi

my pnhp link hasn't made it out yet

but then, i didn't even get a warning message that it was in moderation, it just plain disappeared into the ether when i clicked on submit comment. the cna/nnoc link went through without any moderation at all.

Michael Kwiatkowski's picture

One wonders how we can overcome the blackout on single-payer.

Since the access bloggers are the ones who get invited to the talk shows while we don't, how can we change that? Who among us can get on the air and present the case that what the American people really want, single-payer, is being deliberately swept under the rug by the very activists who are supposed to be fighting for it on America's behalf?

lambert's picture

Another example of single payer censorship

Apple.

Forgot about that one.

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