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Great one from M.Y. After quoting Mark Halperin without irony, we get this, also without irony:
I think if voters better-understood the situation, they'd be much more inclined to vote for their second-favorite Democrat in the race, much less eager to do volunteer work for Clinton, much less inclined to donate money to her campaign, etc. But people won't understand the dynamic unless it's explained to them by credible party leaders.
Broder-esque, totally. The wise men need to sit Hillary down and explain-the-way-things work to Hillary, because dammit, those pesky voters keep voting for her.
Is it something-in-the-water down there?
NOTE Heh. It's been a long time since I've able to do snark with hyphens!
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I pledge...
to give $10 to HRC's campaign for every WWTSBQ Watch that you post... anyone else wants to pledge with me?
Go Global!
I Would Pledge
But given the number of bloggers calling for her to get out (because if you're up nearly 20 points in the next primary, why wouldn't you quit?), it could bankrupt me.
Yeah
I thought about that too after I posted it, but heck, I can always start and we'll see where it goes. Anyhoo... this weekend, I've given $20.
Let's spread it around... it will make a few people's heads explode.
Go Global!
All to the retain control of the party?
This one from Yglesias, quoted at Political Animal, offends me:
Dragging things out 'till the convention stands a much, much, much higher chance of hurting Barack Obama's chances in the general election than it does of securing Clinton the nomination. I understand the calculation from the point of view of the heart of the Clinton campaign — McCain beating Obama in the general means the Clintons still control the party, so there's no need to worry about helping McCain and you might as well hold on and hope lightning strikes. But the broader mass of unaffiliated elites and Clinton supporters who aren't literally on her payroll are, in my view, acting in a massively irresponsible manner.
It's like Obama supporters have drunk the Rovian kool-aid and are out to destroy the Clintons. That this is happening in our own party makes me extremely sad. Even Drum calls him down for CDS.
All TO retain control, sorry
Proofreading not my forte.
Ah -- I can edit. Sorry, I'm new here.
Particularly Crazy in that CDS Way
Given that Clinton is the candidate who has given repeated assurances that she will support the nominee and there will be a unified party. It's Obama and his wife who have hedged on whether they'll support the democratic nominee. And, Matt, if you're really worried about a divisive convention, you might be raising hell over MI and FL and Obama's unwillingness to resolve the issue NOW instead of waiting for the convention.
Not to mention if the Clintons really controlled the party, she'd be the nominee by now.
Logic
I'm sorry is someone inserting logic and reason into this discussion? You must be for Hillary.
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Thanks for contributing!
Great idea!
[x] Any (D) in the general. [ ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart.
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi
refocusing on nomination
my son has a Cthulhu T-Shirt gotta love H.P. Lovecraft. Great CCG game too. Heck great stories, I suppose if it is marketed correctly
[] any (D) in the Nomination. [X ] Any mullah-sucking billionaire-teabagging torture-loving pus-encrusted spawn of Cthulhu, bless his (R) heart for the nomination.
Gotta love marketing. That's the one thing that American's have nailed right.
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Thanks for your patience with me
It's a great post and a great discussion.
And I should say that I'm a newbie here who has come as a refugee from the OFBased community. I am an old and useless woman voter from a state that holds primaries in May and I'm actually looking forward to casting a meaningful vote.
Also, I have no idea what I'm doing here with the software and all but hope to figure it out. Thanks in advance for patience. I'll do my best to say something meaningful once in a while.
2nd Favorite Democrat
He wants me to vote for Jennifer Granholm?
If everyone voted for their second favorite democrat could wind up in with some interesting election results come November.
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Yea, 2nd Favorite Democrat?
Why the assumption that my 2nd favorite is Obama? M.Y. is dreaming if he thinks I'd choose Obama for anything. How many democrats are there? Obama's probably in the lower 1/3 of 'favorites' for me.
And of all currently famous democrats, he's my least favorite (except Lieberman, who doesn't count, 'cause he's not a Democrat).
Jennifer Granholm
Second favorite Democrat is Jennifer Granholm...as far as nominees my 2nd favorite democrat is probably McCain
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